Room for another 1176 clone?

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  1. kmetal

    kmetal Kyle P. Gushue Distinguished Member

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    Looks like (now berringer owned) Klark Technic has produced an 1176 clone. Priced $600 its in line with other mass produced clone gear.

    IMHO it's insulting to both KT and 1176 that this thing is out. Having not heard it or used it I can't comment on its quality or authenticity. To me it's just a way to grab some kids cash.

    The only potential upside of all this cloning would be for prices of the real things to come closer to earth, or for some true innovation with reguard to hardware. Lol neither of which has seem to hit the mainstream yet.

    Anyway maybe it's actually cool. Who knows.

     
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    DonnyThompson Distinguished Member

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    Not an invalid point. Some of these boutique pieces are, IMO, overpriced.

    We'll just have to wait and see...
     
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    pcrecord Quality recording seeker ! Distinguished Member

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    I heard the warmaudio version wasn't that bad.. maybe this one will be the same.. who knows ? .. Let's wait for the real world tests ;)
     
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    WarmAudio generally uses Cinemag XFO's in their stuff... this one from KT is using Midas XFO's. Midas pre's (XFO's) used to be very good-sounding, and they may still be - I don't know anything about Midas since they were picked up by Behringer last year.

    I would assume that some corners were cut along the way in order to get it down to the price range that the KT is in; but whether or not those cut corners will be obvious sonically or not, will remain to be seen ( heard) until someone actually tries one out; preferably someone who has experience with a real 1176.

    edit: then again, I've worked with real 1176's that didn't sound the same as others. I recall working at a studio in L.A. once many years ago, where there were three 1176's in a rack - two black-faced models, and one blue-stripe model, and one of the black faces sounded more like the blue stripe than it did to the other black face... so go figure... ;)
     
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    Maybe relevant, maybe not…. I have several old (pre-Behr##ger) Klark graphic and parametric EQs , and I bought one of the purple, Square One Graphics to evaluate. The SQ1EQ is significantly less expensive ($399), as it should be, and there's a night and day difference between it and the DN series Klarks. Is it good enough to handle monitors for a rock band? Yep. Would it be better than a low-end 2-series dbx 231 ($149), or similar? Probably, yes on all counts. But I'm not sure it would do very well in a shootout with one of my better dbx 20-series, or even 10-series EQs, like a 2231 ($529), or 1231 ($359). And like I said, sonically speaking, it's nowhere near the same league as the real Klarks, or my BSS Opal series.

    So I guess the moral of the story here is, you're probably going to get your money's worth. The technology for 1176s, and graphic EQs has been around for decades. It's hard to believe a piece of equipment that has been on the "desirable" list, can suddenly be made without compromising audio-quality / build-quality at a fraction of the cost.

     
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    kmetal Kyle P. Gushue Distinguished Member

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    There's a klark graphic on the ureis at the big studio and i found it extremely transparent. I do wish the industry would decide on which pin should be hot on a balanced connection. I wonder what they chose to do w the 1176 clone.
     
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