- Jul 2, 2002
The same to you!Originally posted by Ferd Berfel:
What do you mean, "large" power supply? Large in physical size? Or "large" in electrical size? While you were making these observations, you may have also noticed (depending upon which decade you made these observations) that the equipment that has *REALLY* impressed you were more than likely housed in a standard EIA cabinet. Is that a cause of sonic quality or just a correlated relation? Ditto the color of the cabinet.Originally posted by Kurt Foster:
The one thing in common to all the classic designs is large power supply.
I mean a high headroom large capacity power supply. On the basis of JMJ, I am sure you knew what I meant. And yes, I like black equipment best. I think it sounds better!
Actually (from a manufacturing standpoint) the audio transformers are the most costly part--if they're of decent electrical performance. Besides, there's probably little correlation between expense and power supply "quality" anyway (we can go through an actual costing exercise if you'd like).Originally posted by Kurt Foster: Or JMJ as you coined. API pres are relatively inexpensive.. what costs is the lunchbox rack and power supply.
From what I have seen, APIs can go for as low as $400 per… it’s the lunchbox’s that cost ..
I'm not sure what you mean here, but I'll assume that you're trying to discredit the application of scientific methods to discussing "good sounding" gear. If that's *NOT* your intent, I apologize. Otherwise, this is subterfuge.Originally posted by Kurt Foster: Some things can fall under the heading of science and some things can fall under the heading of sounds good.
It means that sometimes no matter what the numbers or the specs are or any of that other science stuff, something just sounds good. You know not all producers and musicians are rocket scientists. Some of us just have to use our ears.. It’s easy for you to attack me for not being a scientific type.. I do what I do and I’m going to keep doing in spite of whether you approve or not. After all you are not required to read my posts. Ultimately, you can even send a PM to Chris and complain to him. Perhaps he will make you a moderator..
That's good, but as we discussed in another thread somewhere, the "weakest link" argument still applies. But your observations have nothing to do with your sound bite (i.e., "JMJ!"; do you even know what a "Joule" is and how it relates to electrical devices, in general, and micpres specifically? That's a rhetorical question...).Originally posted by Kurt Foster:
My experience in real studios, has led me to believe that good gear is usually associated with good power supply design and implementation.
It’s a description of the rate at which resistance in a circuit converts electric energy into heat energy. (I know how to use a dictionary)
What I mean it to mean is a power supply and device that run at high current sound better to me that something that is designed to be more efficent and to run on lower current demands. The best sounding audio devices are often the least efficent. They put off lots of heat. You could reheat a grilled cheese sandwich on most of them.
Your right, I certainly don't know the pressures of being a moderator here (and it looks like your plate is very full). I guess that I've supposed that no comment or "I'm working on it" is preferable to incorrect information. As you pointed out, that is *my* judgement call and yours is different! God Bless the WWW!Originally posted by Kurt Foster: ...My duties as such are to respond to queries. When I don’t respond, I get comments like “Where are the moderators” and PMs asking why I haven’t been contributing on threads...
Well, you must have missed the thread where one guy complained that there were no “helpful pros” here because I didn’t respond to a question he posted. It happens and we get all types. It seems that some people find it easy to poke and throw stones. A person doesn’t have to be ripped a new one just because you are so superior to them. Does it make you feel like a big shot or are you just trying to discredit me because you don’t like my general message ?
Forget the RNP! Personally, I couldn't give a $*^t...I've got plenty of great preamps to use, I don't need it. It's your dogmatism, not the products! The following passage really helps illustrate my main point...Originally posted by Kurt Foster: ...I tried to give the RNC a favorable nod but I am not going to suggest it is the last pre amp you will ever use.
Once again, if I'm misinterpreting what you're saying here, I'm sorry. *BUT* the implied logic to me as a "casual" reader is:Originally posted by Kurt Foster:...since they are so good, I am surprised I have never encountered them in studios I have frequented.
IF RNP's have been around a while,
the studios I frequent don't have them,
the studios I frequent only have good/great gear,
the RNP must not be a good/great piece of gear
I think you are putting words in my mouth. For a person who is a scientest, you seem to assume a lot of things. Or you are simply trying to make me look bad by twisting my words. I have never tried the RNP. I have said this many times. They are better than a Mackie and not as good as a Neve. Is it ok for me to say that?
The problem with this ad hominem logic is that any *NEW* piece of gear (like Sebatron) would be dead out of the gate. The four studios that I frequent here, have never even heard of Sebatron. I, for one, won't let that deter me from trying a Seb unit over several sessions to make up my own mind about it...
Any company that would like me to be familiar with their product is welcome to contact me. At that point I will try the gear. If I like it I will write a review. If a company doesn’t send a piece for me the best I can do when someone inquires is to relate to them what I have heard from the other members on the board. I’m not going to go purchase one just so I can relate to members how it sounds. I may relate to an article I saw or perhaps relate some review results. I get a lot of publications free, EQ, Mix Electronic Musician, Pro Audio Review, Audio Media. But I don’t base my opinions on only magazine articles. I will reserve judgment usually until I hear the piece in action. Until then, I will always state if I have not used the piece if someone inquires. If you have some kind of personal experience with the piece, by all means, chime in and tell us all what you have to offer. But you don’t have to make someone else look bad in the process, unless you get off on that.
Since I've been a recording engineer for hire for about 25 years, I can understand what you mean. But the implication I see is that because it's an unknown quantity (like the Sebatron) it certainly isn't going to get used in your sessions. That's cool! I'm just glad I haven't done that or I would have missed out on some great gear (like my Great River, Cranesongs and even some DIY stuff...all "Johnny-come-latelies" compared to the classic stuff I've been using for far too long)!Originally posted by Kurt Foster:
If I had ever tried to use them on a project most of my clients probably would have questioned my choice. Most of my clients were coming to me for the MCI, Neve and vintage United Audio gear that I had.
Well that’s not so… as you know. I don’t know why you would say that. Everyone knows I am always looking for a new quality mic pre, eq or compressor. If you are slamming me for not being willing to sample the latest Behringer or Rolls piece, I going to have to plead guilty. In the case of the RNP, I am very interested due to comments that have been made, some good and some bad and I would like to hear what all the hub-bub is for myself. I wish they would send me one!
Well, it's clear that "you like what you know and you know what you like". My apologies for assuming that maybe you'd want to know that some of your responses run quite loosely with the facts (we could actually go through them one-by-one if you'd like). It's just that you seem so earnest and sincere, it's hard to believe that:Originally posted by Kurt Foster: Yes I want to enjoy the exchange of information with the music and recording community, which I have been so fortunate to have been a part of now for 40 years and which has been so good to me and my family. I have been very fortunate. So I try to give a little back.
(a) you'd be so resistant to wanting to know more factual details and principles about equipment operation/design, and,
(b) you're OK not giving other, less-experienced board members exposure to foundational principles of audio equipment operation.
In response to your comment that my “responses run quite loosely with the facts”, I do the best with what I have. If you wish to point out my mistakes or misconceptions in a polite manner through all threads, that would be most helpful. But once again you don’t need to do it in a way that seems to be intent on discrediting me. If you want to use science and math to make me look bad, your fighting an unnamed man. But I still know hat sounds good and I have done a lot of good work. I have owned and still do own a lot of nice gear. And a lot of people seem to like me and my opinions. I’m sorry this seems to bother you so much.
Oh well...I shan't piss-up-this rope anymore! Best of luck, Kurt!