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BDM
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Joined: Oct 23, 2008
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Location: Burundi, Africa
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i think getting the bass guitar to interact nicely with the guitars helps to create sort of a 'phantom' bottom on the guitars. some of the tiniest sounding soloed guitars can sound quite large in the mix. i think Jimi Page used a puny champ for some songs... also, the best (and hardest) thing i've done is to dial back the distortion. i also find doubling by replaying the same parts is more organic than cut and paste, and can create really interesting overtones and chorusing, especially with different amps and guitars. or doubling with chords played in different positions on the neck. or hanging upside-down from the ceiling and then inverting the mic phase... oh, wait. THAT didn't work at all... |
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Here are some tips that I have come across in my pursuit for the "perfect guitar sound". I should note that I work with energetic, modern rock/metal - not blues or softer rock. Also, these are tips that have worked for me, but you should use them at your own discretion.
1. Use less distortion - unless you want the notes and rhythms to be mush.
2. How you play will greatly affect how your guitar sounds on the recording. Learn to be a CLEAN player. Simplify your rhythms. Everything you do while playing translates into your recorded sound. How you place you fingers on the fret, whether or not you mute unused strings while playing a chord, how you strum the strings. Practice the parts you are going to record, and PAY ATTENTION to how you are playing. Become ANAL about how you play. If you want a bad ass recording, you're going to have to be able to play the part right.
3. Always record with new strings, and make sure you tune the crap out of your guitar between takes/songs. Check your intonation. Listen for crappy string buzz. Put a piece of duck tape on the strings between the nut and tuning pegs. If you don't know how to set up your guitar, have a professional do it.
4. Mind your recording environment. Some of the bigger, punchier sounds I've gotten were from recording in semi-acoustically dead large rooms. A large closet full of clothes has worked fairly well in the past. Just make sure its big enough so you don't get bass frequency problems!
5. Do not over track your guitars! If you have 5 guitar tracks playing the same thing, its essentially equivalent to turning your distortion knob all the way up. You may have a "loud and full" sound, but in the end all of the notes will be mushy and you are going to have hell trying to make room for the other instruments in that wall of guitars.
6. Listen to the sound coming from your amp. If you don't like the sound coming from your amp, you're never going to like it on the recording. Also, keep in mind that the microphone "hears" the sound coming directly from your speaker - which is not the same sound you hear when standing in front/above your amp (unless your speakers are at ear level).
7. Keep in mind that the "rumble" in your gut you feel when you play your guitar in front of your amp is not going to come from your monitors (unless they are cranked, and you have them in a similar cab enclosure).
8. I have had the best luck with amp EQs that have some of all frequencies (i.e. Don't drop your mids to 0). Start with a a flat amp EQ, and make small adjustments according to what you don't like about the sound. I currently record guitar with my mids at 4, bass at 5, treble at 6 and presence at 6 (Dual Rec). Your settings WILL be different, depending on the guitar you use, amount of distortion, type of music, etc... Use your ears!
9. Start with one guitar track and play with your amps/mics/guitars until you get a fairly big sound. Don't use any EQ/compression/effects yet. Then, double the track and pan the two tracks left and right to taste. It is important that your double is played exactly like the original track - otherwise you start getting mush.
10. The rest of the mix is essential to getting that punchy, full sound you're looking for. The cleaner all of your tracks are, the better everything will sound in general. This especially holds true for bass (which I feel is usually overlooked in the tracking process).
11. High pass your guitars at somewhere at or below 100Hz. You don't want those low frequencies muddying up your bass/kick region (and they will!).
12. Watch your low-mid frequencies. A lot of mud happens in this region, but this region is also essential to a big guitar sound. Consider using a multiband compressor to tame these frequencies, but don't overdo it. Careful EQing in this region for each instrument will likely be necessary.
13. When mixing, know when to make the guitars back off and when to bring them to the front. Linkin Park is a great example of this. In their intros, the guitars are brought up in volume, but in the choruses they are tucked lower in the mix. A great mix has DYNAMICS - even if the song is an all palm muting, head banging, wail fest. Your BIG parts will sound BIGGER if they are next to a small part.
14. In my opinion, a good guitar recording does not need an assload of EQ/effects to sound right. If you are not getting the sound you want, try a different mic, amp, amp eq, guitar, etc...
15. Many BIG guitar sounds have simply come from an SM57 placed 1" or so off the grill, pointed at the intersection of the center cone to the outer cone. Buy yourself a brand new SM57, and don't let anyone touch it or use it for anything other than recording guitars.
16. Search for recording ideas in forums/magazines/books, etc... Try different ideas. Keep trying different amps/guitars. The more you try, the better you will get. Even the pros still search for a perfect sound.
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