Improving my mastering chain: new converters

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:42 am

Hi,
I upgraded from the 02r96v2 (!!!) to the Hedd.

I had just a minor experience with the Rosetta. Not so different from the 192 I/O Analog.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:44 am

Yep I have to agree, I like my hedd 192 as well. When I was buying I checked in the Benchmark and Lavry units. I ended up with the cranesong. I also picked up the avocet for my monitors and am really happy with it.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:42 pm

Thanks Massive, as usual very knowledgeable - but let me re-phrase my question to you: what sort of direct state of being in proportion to the phase shift to frequency over the frequency range in comparison to the Apogee do you hear?

Quote:

From what I hear (no pun intended)

No pun intended to the Apogee Electronics Corp or to a nb comp? Very Happy

Best regards,

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:39 am

I just listened to it - I didn't interview 'em. The Rosetta just sounded "smaller" by comparison. A little more forward in the mids (in typical Apogee style), a little "less smooth" everywhere else.

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:57 am

Hi, John.
I do agree with you. Got the same impression in my quick listening test.
(192I/O, Rosetta 200, 02R96, Hedd).

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:12 pm

Massive Mastering wrote:

I just listened to it - I didn't interview 'em. The Rosetta just sounded "smaller" by comparison. A little more forward in the mids (in typical Apogee style), a little "less smooth" everywhere else.

Thanks Massive, I know now that the Apogees have come to pass {RIP}.

Best,

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:08 pm

Now now guys. We all know you are making things up. There is no difference in ADCs. It's all in your minds.

It's silly making things up, then talking about it. Don't express yourself, don't share your thoughts or impressions because a scientist may come along, blindfold you and trick you into not knowing your arse from your elbow.

http://recording.org/ftopicp-347791.html

/sarcasm

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:33 pm

Greener, just respect opinions, ok?

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:57 pm

music_guy wrote:

Thanks Massive, I know now that the Apogees have come to pass {RIP}.

Depends on the application. I still love Apogee AD's for tracking. For mastering purposes, I want more "purity" (for lack of a better term). Plus with the HEDD, you have a lot of freedom to add color (a LOT if you want) or keep the path as pure as possible. Plus, a great clock.

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:23 am

Ok.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:28 am

Massive Mastering wrote:

music_guy wrote:

Thanks Massive, I know now that the Apogees have come to pass {RIP}.

Depends on the application. I still love Apogee AD's for tracking. For mastering purposes, I want more "purity" (for lack of a better term). Plus with the HEDD, you have a lot of freedom to add color (a LOT if you want) or keep the path as pure as possible. Plus, a great clock.

Yes, but I 've been hearing too many times how great the HEDD sounds. I am going to need a new converter that I can use for both tracking and mastering - I assume that the Spider 8 will do it all. Correct me if I am wrong.

Regards,

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:22 am

Dave actually talked me out of using the Spider and into the HEDD. There's just too much in the path.

As a front end or summing mixer though... We put some PT mixes summed digitally against the same mixes summed through a Spider - It wasn't even a fair fight. Great preamps too -- But I'd still go after a Flamingo (perhaps the greatest preamp I've ever used) or two *and* a HEDD and have the best of both. Although I suppose you'd still need some individual AD's...

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:35 am

Massive Mastering wrote:

Dave actually talked me out of using the Spider and into the HEDD. There's just too much in the path.

Holy Cow! Thanks for that piece of advise. I'll wait a little longer to make sure I get a killer combo or get separate units. You'd think that there would be the same Crane Song consistency by adding 8 I/O's but I guess the pre-amp section and all those channels can't be transparently by-passed to act as a discrete two in and outs. I am sure is a great unit for tracking and live recordings though.

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:25 am

If you go into the line inputs, it's pretty clean. I don't want an additional gain stage though... One more is one more too many.

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