Punch holes in hat channel to make RC2?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:23 am

I haven't been able to find any RC1 or RC2 resilient channels here in China, and my contractor guy asks if we can get similar performance if we had a shop punch holes in regular hat channels to turn them into RC2 resilient channels. Is this a bad idea? Would it work?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:16 am

That would be a monumental waste of time.

Even if you could make normal hat channeling act like a shock absorber you would probably end up with something that wont hold the wall up.

I could be imagining things, I olny found out what RC2 resilient channels were 2 minutes ago.

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:09 pm

Luna,

Not sure if I'm still correct on this or not... of course your costs may vary... but it's just not worth it.

What about Iso Clips?

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:22 pm

If I can find ISO clips that would be great too, but so far no luck. Rod had suggested Mason in Hong Kong before for all this stuff, and I contacted them only to have them refer to their Shanghai office, and they flat out told me that their products are too elite for a little home studio. I'm not even sure if I can talk them into selling me stuff since they more likely only deal with big construction clients.

Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:09 am

Maybe try to calculate how many you need, (add a fudge factor) and buy em' from another construction site?

Any extra's... take back to the site. (could be a goodwill gesture)

Just a thought...

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:27 am

Problem right now is, I don't even know where I can find any of this stuff (RC1&2, ISO clips), let alone large constructions that are using them. I tried searching stores here locally, and also on the construction material specialty websites--nothing turned up. I'm beginning to think I may be chasing after something that's just not possible while living in China. Sad

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:50 pm

"I'm beginning to think I may be chasing after something that's just not possible while living in China. " /quote

That sounds like a pity party...

Rod said this about 8 days ago: "...whenever it is possible to carry the ceiling on your walls - without the hangers - that would be preferable. "
http://recording.org/ftopic-47256-days0-orderasc-15.html

You are over thinking this and making it way more difficult for yourself then it even needs to be.

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:26 pm

What's killing me right now is that as much as I'd love to just go ahead and build everything according to Rod's suggestions, I'm hitting bottlenecks here because suppliers either won't sell their stuff to me because I'm not some construction company that can order their minimum order, or they do not have any data regarding the products they sell, such as what is the optimum weight to compress their neoprene puck/pad.

I can put the ceiling on the new walls like Rod suggested, but I can't get anyone here to tell me how to distribute the weight of the ceiling+walls among the neoprene pucks/pads, since the suppliers of the neoprenes don't have such data, and the manufacturers often just make things based on specs given by some previous client and they don't test these products and have no relevant data available either. So if I place an order for something, it's pretty much a mystery if the item even matches the characteristics of the stuff people usually use in the States and elsewhere.

Believe me, my contractor and I both would love to make this as painless as possible, but having run around the entire city and scouring the web, we are getting pretty frustrated.

Anyway, I'm not the type to give up so easily. I'll keep trying. I'll be updating that main thread with any new developments and questions.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:01 pm

Lunatique,

At some forums there is a guy from China (fun & clever) who's busy with his own studio.
Maybe he can give you some hints in function of country related issues.

http://forum.studiotips.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=6404

His Nick name in forums is BIG8

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:32 pm

Thanks! That forum doesn't allow search or profile viewing unless you register. I registered and am waiting for them to approve.

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:14 am

Luna,

one problem we are having is thast you post in multiple threads instead of sticking to just the one for your studio build.

I answered in there yesterday morning - and apparently you didn't check that.

You don't need RC on your ceiling - just hangers.....

If they won't sell to you - then I will contact Norman and have him set them straight - he won't take likely to them refusiing to sell to anyone - that is one of the reasons his firm is in my book.

Call them back - tell them what you want - and if they give you a hard time let me know - but tell them that you are building an elite home studio - with some direction by one of Norman Masons contacts. That should set them straight.

Rod

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:19 am

Sorry about that. I thought the hole-punching thing was kind of a special case so I posted a specific thread about it. I'll link this to the main thread and just use that from now on. (I've already stopped posting at other forums about my studio since MadMax suggested it.)

I'll reply to you in the main thread about what's happening with Mason currently (I called them again yesterday in Shanghai).

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:22 am

Lunatique wrote:

What's killing me right now is that as much as I'd love to just go ahead and build everything according to Rod's suggestions, I'm hitting bottlenecks here because suppliers either won't sell their stuff to me because I'm not some construction company that can order their minimum order, or they do not have any data regarding the products they sell, such as what is the optimum weight to compress their neoprene puck/pad.

I can put the ceiling on the new walls like Rod suggested, but I can't get anyone here to tell me how to distribute the weight of the ceiling+walls among the neoprene pucks/pads, since the suppliers of the neoprenes don't have such data, and the manufacturers often just make things based on specs given by some previous client and they don't test these products and have no relevant data available either.

Mason industries provides that data with all of their products.

Rod

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