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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I want to preface this with the fact that I'm new to acoutic design...

I have a small room that I want to design for tracking. The room is somewhat small (10.5 x 8 x Cool but it's all I got. I want to connect this tracking room to my control room... so I need to knock out a seperating wall and either put in JUST a window (but sucks because the rooms aren't connect), a window and door, OR a sliding glass door which will work as a window and a door.

However, I'm affraid that I'm going to a) lose any amount of sound deflection through the double pane window and my control room will be drowed with sound from the tracking room, and b) it will cause some funky reflection in the tracking room due to the sliding glass door being so much of a flat area.

I think a sliding glass door would be super convenient, but is going to screw up my acoustics?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

There are a lot of things that affect the total situation, but here's the short answer: the room's too small for that much of that kind of glass.

For reasonable isolation, you'd need two sets of sliding glass doors as far apart as possible (8" or more), and if you were to go that route it would be better to use thicker laminated glass in each slider rather than the standard thin insulated glass with narrow air pockets between them.

What will you be recording? Acoustic guitar? Drums?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

jazzman_in_pa wrote:
There are a lot of things that affect the total situation, but here's the short answer: the room's too small for that much of that kind of glass.

For reasonable isolation, you'd need two sets of sliding glass doors as far apart as possible (8" or more), and if you were to go that route it would be better to use thicker laminated glass in each slider rather than the standard thin insulated glass with narrow air pockets between them.

What will you be recording? Acoustic guitar? Drums?

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It would be for tracking your general rock set up: drums, dist-guitar, bass, vocals, etc.

I looked into the cost for sound insulated sliding glass doors, and it's out of my price range.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:42 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The glass in the door alone will not hurt the acoustics of the room. If all of the other walls in the room are reflective, then you will have a problem anyway. When I was in school (Recording Industry Program at Middle Tennessee State University) we had and acoustic designer come and give an entire lecture on the benefits of glass in a control room. Many professional studios have one or more sets of sliding glass doors. As you say, they are convenient and also work well in a studio.

BUT, when you bust open that wall your are compromising it's ability to not let sound through. If it is a standard wall it has two layers of sheet rock with an air pocket in between; great conditions to stop the transmission of sound. Anything you do should ideally be “double,” but if budget does not permit that, get the thickest glass you can and try to get the insulated kind with two sheets of glass with the thickest gap between them. Make sure the door is built well; it should be heavy and have as little of a gap at the track as possible. Also, make sure the construction is sound. Build a good solid frame with no gaps and make sure you caulk everything up real well. Throwing some extra insulation inside the wall when it is opened would not be a bad idea either.

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P.S. Don't forget to run you wires between the two rooms before you close the wall back up. It may sound obvious but I've heard of it happening. Make sure you insulate that as well as possible; I've been in rooms that everything is quiet except for the sound coming from the pipe used to run the wires. Remember, anything you do to that wall will compromise it's integrity.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:17 am Reply with quoteBack to top

The SAE guy sez this:

http://www.saecollege.de/reference_material/

It seems like pretty complete information.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:27 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Sorry, I wasn't specific enough.

Once at the site, go to construction, and from there, to the section on 'doors and windows'

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K, great link. Thanks.
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